A collection of comments from Road Warrior readers:

Speeding in the construction zone

Driver crashes in Petaluma after high-speed chase! How much will his fine be for doing 100 mph in the double fine zone? And all the other factors involved in the chase thru the construction zone?

Where is the big CHP crackdown on double fine zone speeding?? I drive thru there 4 times a day north and south at night and in the morning average speed up and over the Cotati grade 70 mph. Maybe one or two officers working but very rarely. Where’s the big task force where they have 10 units north and 10 units south like they do every Labor Day Sunday!!

Whats wrong with an officer waiting at the end of the K-rail northbound where it goes from 2 to 3 lanes and is still 55 until the back lot of Friedman’s in Santa Rosa — or just inside the 55-mph sign southbound 101 past Todd, Whole lotta speeding there also!!

Caltrans electric signs to warn people of the speed change are useless –people don’t even look at those signs

Frustrated that I have to drive 55 to avoid a double fine and everyone else can do 60-80 no worries!! A reader

Driving well but getting the finger

Since moving to Santa Rosa two years ago from San Jose where I lived for 15 years and my wife longer than that as well as living in California almost 40 years, we have been subjected to drivers giving us the finger while driving.

This morning, my wife picked me up from an eye doctor’s appointment because my eyes were dilated and you are not supposed to drive. So she drove into the parking lot and I got in the car. As we started to drove around the lot, a driver in a small pickup truck was backing out. So my wife stopped and gave the driver plenty of room. The driver then starts to go forward but stops because they misread how much room was needed to get by the car parked next to them. So the driver starts backing out toward us and it was not obvious that they were aware of our presence. My wife gave the driver a short horn. The driver stopped and stuck their middle finger out at us. Then drove away.

Remember that this driver could have had issues with their eye as they were parked in lot that is strictly for this eye doctor on 2nd Street by Brookwood.

I remember one time last summer driving on Highway 12 to Sonoma doing the speed limit. This BMW finally passes me and there were two young men in the car. The passenger leans out the window and gives us the finger. And there have been other times this has happened to myself and my wife and we were not driving badly. Evidently not up to someone else’s standards.

It is a good thing that this is a not a state where people carry guns. Road rage in those states sometimes means someone getting shot and killed.

So we just ignore these drivers but wondering how others feel in our county.

Thanks. Andrew

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49 Comments

  1. Efficient

    I never post on anything, but will do so here. I am one of those people who drive more efficient than you people. I get frustrated at those drivers on highway 12 who enter the fast lane, but only go 60. I have to commute to Sonoma from Santa Rosa and have to check myself when I am stuck behind people who go less than the speed limit if not the limit. I spend more than an hour and a half every day in my car. I would like to spend less. It is you who prolong my time. Use the slow lane and let me get out of your life. I promise it will be quick. Also if you are not mentally capable to operate your vehicle at a greater pace considering those limits were set when vehicles were not performing at todays capabilities then please seek other methods of transportation. I don’t flip people off, but I might start. How else can you learn you are the problem?

    July 28th, 2012 9:55 am

  2. sam

    People who speed everywhere tend to receive a greater number of speeding tickets than folks who drive the limit. You may not see it but they. When you see it give them the finger!

    July 28th, 2012 10:03 am

  3. Bgfoot

    I can understand your frustration,especially the merges! When it says lane closing merge left, this does not mean ride the lane to the last minute, passing everyone who is waiting patiently just to clog up traffic worse!
    However when it comes to the rest of santa rosa’s speed limits, perhaps why everyone goes too slow or fast due to lack of speed limit signs. Get on 101 north from Hearn and you won’t see a speed limit sign until after bicentennial. On 12 from dutton till farmers lane Ect…

    July 28th, 2012 10:32 am

  4. steve

    I drive 250 miles a day 5 days a week from Santa Rosa to Sacramento and back. Never have any problems until I hit 101 from Petaluma to Santa Rosa. The most tailgating and aggressive driving and road rage occurs here. Low class people and just two lanes are a bad mixture.

    July 28th, 2012 10:34 am

  5. Chuck

    This list of comment sounds like the current Congress talking about what THEY want to do.
    Is it any wonder that this country is having so much difficulty getting it back together. The “One Per-centers” are the only winners and the division between The “Ninety Per-centers” gets wider and wider.
    I still wonder why COMPROMISE has become a dirty word.
    Could it be that we are all getting contaminated by election year Bull . . . . .
    The Human Race seemed to be headed toward being a failed experiment.

    July 28th, 2012 10:59 am

  6. Tom

    Half the problem is that most people think the speed limit is 55 on 12. It’s not, its 65. There needs to be more signs.

    And yes, Sonoma country has some of the most passive aggressive, inconsiderate, slow drivers and the planet. GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE IF YOU ARE HOLDING PEOPLE UP!!!

    July 28th, 2012 11:01 am

  7. joey

    Don’t worry about what speed others are driving unless it really hurts you. The biggest problem in north bay driving is many drivers have forgotten that they should move to the right when somebody comes up behind them and looks like they want to go faster…get out of the way and let them go.
    What ends up happing with the folks who feel they have some kind of right driving in the fast lane -usually below the actual speed limit- is they force drivers who want to go the speed limit or just a little over into passing them on the right–which is often not safe.
    Don’t stay in the fast lanes if you are not passing—in other words if you’re day dreaming and puttering along- move over.

    July 28th, 2012 11:15 am

  8. Tracey Nelson

    The toughest spot I run into is coming onto Hwy. 12 from 101 heading east. Sometimes cars already on 12 that want to exit at the fairgrounds will cut you off or try to force you right off the road rather than let you merge on. I live by Farmers Lane and I’ve had way too many close calls at that spot.

    July 28th, 2012 11:44 am

  9. TimeIsLife

    I agree with Efficient. There are only so many hours in the day, and I ache to spend as many as those as possible with my family. I get so frustrated seeing other drivers who don’t give a rat’s backside about the overall flow of traffic, but instead see driving as their own personal picnic-behind-the-steering-wheel time. These are the drivers who are creating the delays and backups. If you see people blowing by you on your right side, then you are in the wrong lane, period. Move over. Understand that it’s not all about YOU, but it’s about the overall flow of traffic — getting the most vehicles through so that EVERYBODY spends LESS time on the roads. Wake up, turn off the phone, and pay attention to the traffic around you. THANK YOU!

    July 28th, 2012 11:47 am

  10. wangofango

    a true annoyance are drivers who drive in the far left lane, using it as their ‘cruising lane’ when they’re obviously driving slower than the flow of traffic. the rational that “i’m going the speed limit, so I’ll stay in this lane” is NOT legal or valid. That said, it’s still not valid to signal with the middle finger. I’ve found the best response to finger-raisers is just to smile at them, maybe wave with all five fingers (okay, four fingers and a thumb). Drives ‘em crazy. Ha Ha Ha. Like Ro-Cham-Beau: Five fingers beats one finger every time.

    July 28th, 2012 11:52 am

  11. Efficient

    @ Sam – “people who speed everywhere tend to recieve a greater number of tickets.” Thanks Captain Obvious!

    @ Bgfoot – FYI The speed limit on most freeways is 65mph unless clearly posted otherwise. Also if you were in the left lane that closes and went to the end you may notice that it’s there that people slide in and move forward much easier than those who block traffic by trying to merge immediately, and stock piling everyone. Also might I recomend instead of “waiting patiently” you may also merge left as through traffic and therefore clearing space for those entering. Just please remember to go the speed of traffic as to not slow anyone down.

    July 28th, 2012 12:27 pm

  12. T

    Dear Driving Well But Still getting:

    Look at Efficient’s email. What he’s saying is that slower traffic, even though it may believe it’s are going fast enough, or the speed limit, should use the right lanes. It doesn’t matter whether you think they are driving too fast. Just assume they have a good reason for going too fast, or assume they are jerks, whatever you wish , and MOVE OUT of the FAST lane. Your quote tells a lot :- “..I remember one time last summer driving on Highway 12 to Sonoma doing the speed limit. This BMW finally passes me..” You were blocking these guys, and when they FINALLY (your words) could get by, they gave you the finger. Be cool. Get out of other’s way. Don’t be a righteous fool.

    July 28th, 2012 1:22 pm

  13. Irritated

    Efficient…I’m with you!! I am on the road for over 2 hours a day, and get so irritated when people REFUSE to move to the slow lane because they are too lazy, inconsiderate, or just plain lack the knowledge of proper driving skills. These are the people who cause the traffic jams in the first place…and nobody should be forced to pass on the right side because a slow driver in the fast lane is being stubborn. IDIOTS!!

    July 28th, 2012 2:36 pm

  14. G

    If you do not use a turn signal to indicate you are changing your course that might implicate others on the road with you, then you might get the finger.

    July 28th, 2012 3:32 pm

  15. Makai

    Efficient stated:
    “I never post on anything, but will do so here. I am one of those people who drive more efficient than you people. I get frustrated at those drivers on highway 12 who enter the fast lane, but only go 60. I have to commute to Sonoma from Santa Rosa and have to check myself when I am stuck behind people who go less than the speed limit if not the limit. I spend more than an hour and a half every day in my car. I would like to spend less. It is you who prolong my time. Use the slow lane and let me get out of your life. I promise it will be quick. Also if you are not mentally capable to operate your vehicle at a greater pace considering those limits were set when vehicles were not performing at todays capabilities then please seek other methods of transportation. I don’t flip people off, but I might start. How else can you learn you are the problem?”

    I deliberately drive in the fast lane, or far left lane and do the ‘posted’ speed limit only, of which is legally defined in the DMV code. I do it to slow your speeders down, and like to see your reactions when I refuse to move for you because you want to SPEED and break the law.

    However, when someone tailgates me, starts flashing their high beams, and honking the horn, I ease off the accelerator and slow down until you back off, or go around the right side.

    I’m breaking no laws, you are. So beware of me. I WILL NOT MOVE OVER!

    @Efficient; you need to attend anger management classes, or don’t drive at all. You are a danger not only to yourself, but others too.

    July 28th, 2012 3:53 pm

  16. safedriver

    The primary problem concerning traffic issues has always been the same and is more obvious as each of my 40 years in Sonoma Co. passes. That is the near absence of road planning and design, terrible traffic light timing (if it exists at all), and other related factors.
    It’s interesting reading points of view ranging from clueless “Driving well but getting the finger” to Makai who seems to have a death wish.
    Remember, we have the same types of drivers with the same attitudes all over this nation. It only becomes this painful when you are driving in areas similar to Sonoma Co. where there is a complete disregard for the issues as exists here by those who could and should be doing something about it.
    This leaves those who must endure the driving conditions but expect to get to their destinations in a reasonable time to start nit-picking the other drivers. “If only they would (fill in the logic here)” Good reasons, all of them but we are picking on each other when we should be angry at the powers that be who frankly, don’t give a damn.

    July 28th, 2012 4:54 pm

  17. frankie

    most of these comments are really scaring me, sheesh! I don’t hang in the left lane either unless I need to pass and I also commute multiple round trip hours during the week. Of course I gnash my teeth in moments too. Folks using the road for teachable moments, no matter how justified , make the road a riskier place for the most of us who just want to get home safe and sound! And we will get home, this is what I tell myself whenever someone is driving too slow, too fast, too distracted etc.

    July 28th, 2012 5:06 pm

  18. Tom

    makai – is the inconsiderate passive aggressive driver that puts everyone in danger.

    She should not have a license. CHP should spend more time ticketing selfish, aggressive people like her.

    July 28th, 2012 5:09 pm

  19. Topa

    Commute on the right, pass on the left, don’t cut in front of big rigs. Take a deep breath and remember everyone is trying to get somewhere so play nice. DO NOT drive distracted (cell phones and looking out the side of the car to watch whatever are big ones in this county.) Leave extra room for farm vehicles, old people (a rising number in the county) and old cars. Single car accidents are a sign of distractive driving, don’t be part of that group. Understand the person behind you might be tired and want to go home, so let them pass! Watch out for bicycles on country roads and let people pass if they want. If you see someone wants to enter the lane you are in do not cut them off. In general, be a little more civil to each other.

    July 28th, 2012 6:02 pm

  20. Rex Faktor

    Makai -

    Thank you for representing some of Sonoma’s worst drivers with your comment. Always entertaining to hear what’s going through the mind of drivers with habits that make others question why they are not on a bus.

    Oh, and if you are slowing down in the fast lane with no car in front of you and one behind you, and not moving to the right if safe (forcing others to pass you on the right) then you are breaking the law as an impediment to safe traffic flow.

    “I do it to slow your speeders down” You are not a cop, and attempting to help perform law enforcement without proper training and in an inadequate vehicle is also legally questionable.

    July 28th, 2012 6:20 pm

  21. Makai

    Aloha SPEEDERS!

    I have proven my point, and you have stepped up and shown your reckless disregard for the law and safety of others.

    You are the supposed ‘entitled’ drivers who feel that everybody should move for you, and do as only you do. Well, guess again, because one time you’re going to come upon the wrong vehicle and driver who is not going to stand for your arrogance and entitled attitude on the roads. It won’t be me, but it will be someone. And you will regret it.

    So be careful out there, you never know who you’re going to tailgate, honk your horn at, flash your lights at(which is illegal), or flip off next. And if you have Families, they will miss you.

    Mahalo, and Aloha Nui Loa

    July 28th, 2012 7:54 pm

  22. Jack

    Maybe the Road Warrior could get a nice, friendly officer to settle the issue: which sort of drivers are they more concerned about? The arrogant, hot-headed speeders or the self-rightous nanny nestors (a DC Beltway term for this behavior)?

    In my opinion, you’re both doing it wrong.

    I get annoyed by drivers who seem to drive with the purpose of “showing em!” which describes both groups.

    July 28th, 2012 9:23 pm

  23. JohnnyCakes

    A lot of the folks who speed or spend too much time on the road are their own enemy and not the slower drivers or those who actually do the speed limit. You people have made the choice to live far from work or work far from home. It’s not them.. it’s you.

    July 28th, 2012 9:24 pm

  24. paul

    there are 2 things here that weren’t discussed. There seems to be some aversion to horn blowing as if it’s some deadly insult these days. Jeez, people get over it. You are asleep at the intersection. That’ guy who flipped off the honker, I don’t get it. The horn is there to be used when people aren’t paying attention. We are not talking about a traffic jam where there is no where to go. It’s functional. Of course, I would prefer a irectional speaker so I could tell you personally about other driving problems you have, but tapping the horn does not contain an insult.

    For those people who are in a rush and want to drive faster than I am willing to drive on rural roads (usually slightly over the limit), get ready to be p—– as I just slow down when someone tailgates me in situations that I can’t drive faster. If breaking the law speeding doesn’t bother you, than why should those center lines bother you, just pass me where safe. It doesn’t work to try and force me to be the first speeder, i just slow down. If someone like you is going to get me in an accident, I want to be going slower.

    July 28th, 2012 9:31 pm

  25. Frustrated

    I have to comment about driving on HWY 12. Choosing to live just off this highway has been one of the biggest mistakes of my life. You want people to go faster than 55 in the fast lane? FIne. But when people like myself do 55 in the right lane, where the posted signs state the limit as 55 mph, and begin to slow down to make a right hand turn onto our street, while using our turn signals, it is incredibly scary that the cars behind me every time never slow down, or try to squeeze around me with a car directly on their left hand side. I have two small children, and to know that in 3 years we have almost been rear ended more times than I can count does not make me feel safe. I follow the rules, and yet in return, I’m honked at for having the audacity for simply trying to go home. I get that people are in a hurry, but good grief, your fellow drivers are as important as you are. Why not show some respect for the lives of my children and I like I show for yours?

    July 28th, 2012 9:35 pm

  26. David Stubblebine

    This is a very interesting collection of comments – “flabbergasting collection of comments” may describe them better. Mostly what I see here are people trying to justify their desire to speed while blaming everyone else for interfering. I do not agree with Makai’s policy of “teaching people a lesson” but he is within the law. It is not against the law to drive the speed limit in the fast lane when others wish to go faster. It is not against the law to drive less than the speed limit in the fast lane with cars lining up behind unless the slower speed creates an actual hazard; creating an inconvenience is not sufficient to make it a violation of Vehicle Code section 22400(a), Impeding Traffic. Using the right lanes to pass a car in the left lane is not illegal and is not unsafe per se; in fact, it is absolutely the proper and appropriate way to deal with a slow-poke in the fast lane.

    As for the finger, this one is simple: flipping another person off is a rude, inconsiderate, arrogant act of hostility [PERIOD!].

    July 28th, 2012 9:57 pm

  27. Ronzo

    Hey all, remember that white sign that is usually in the center barrier to the left of the roadway and says SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT

    Let the yahoo’s pass and risk the ticket and/or accident. Why would you want these idiots behind you anyway. Let them attract the officers attention.

    If everyone would SLOW DOWN and SHARE the damn road, it would be easier for all. What the hell is the hurry anyway?

    Save another 5 or 10 minutes of your life… is it really worth it???

    Besides trying to enforce the “Road Rules” on others is only asking for trouble. let the cops do it, thats why the get paid the big bucks and get to carry a gun….. save and happy driving to all.

    July 29th, 2012 12:09 am

  28. Bob D

    I’m with you Makai. If you’re speeding, you’re breaking the law, which makes you a criminal, and I have no desire to be kind to criminals. You people are angry and dangerous to the world you live in.

    July 29th, 2012 6:53 am

  29. Fred Mangels

    A lot of people complain about the price of gas but few care to do anything about their mileage it seems.

    I’m one of those few people that try to drive around 55ish mph- usually 56 or 57, actually. I tested it a couple times driving from Eureka to San Francisco and found I got a 20 to 25% saving in mileage, depending on how you round out the numbers.

    And sometimes I am in the left or middle lane. Usually just because merging traffic can be quite the task to deal with if you stay in the right lane. I do try and stay in the slow lane if possible.

    July 29th, 2012 6:55 am

  30. Steve-o

    Can’t we all just get along? Let’s meet @ the fairgounds after church on Sunday morning for big group hug.

    July 29th, 2012 7:35 am

  31. Myrtie Webb

    I simply refuse to drive on the 101.

    July 29th, 2012 8:24 am

  32. Todd

    Why are you complaining. Let them get the damn ticket for speeding. Worry about your own driving.

    July 29th, 2012 9:21 am

  33. Carolyn

    @Steve-O
    I’m with you! See you at the fairgrounds!!

    July 29th, 2012 11:00 am

  34. BrianP

    @Makai

    Please note that this section of the California Code does not allow speeding over the posted limit:

    21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any
    vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
    (b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is
    not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation of subdivision (a) of this section.

    July 29th, 2012 2:44 pm

  35. BrianP

    self-righteously*

    Sorry for the typo…

    July 29th, 2012 2:47 pm

  36. Fred_W

    @Bob D:

    Speeders are *criminals*? Wow. Murderers are criminals. You cast a frighteningly wide net. Every single time I see a CHP cruiser going up or down the 101, they are doing 70 mph. Are you saying the CHP are also “criminals”?

    July 29th, 2012 2:53 pm

  37. Bob D

    don’t be frightened Fred. don’t break the law.

    July 29th, 2012 3:16 pm

  38. Road.Warrior

    We’ve address the question of whether you’re legally required to move over if you’re doing the speed limit and someone is coming up behind you. The CHP has said it’s a good idea to move over but legally you don’t have to. Check it out: http://roadwarrior.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/12162/do-you-have-to-let-them-pass/

    July 29th, 2012 4:14 pm

  39. Perspective

    Makai, you are a danger to your self and other road users.
    Everyone else, take a chill pill, wait for a passing opportunity to pass safely. And remember; if you make an aggressive pass, only to stay at the same speed but one or two cars ahead (because traffic is backed up)… you are a …….. Try for some perspective and you may realize that even if you make it ten cars ahead, in bad traffic you gained nothing and just put yourself and the other drivers at risk. This is what causes other drivers to get upset and may try to deliberately stop you from ‘cutting in front’.

    Those who arrogantly think that they have a right to cruise the fast lane; try some perspective and realize it’s not about you individually and, the car behind you is not insulting you by trying to get ahead (I know the car may look aggressive but that’s just body style not the driver), please, take the high ground and move over!

    July 30th, 2012 12:00 am

  40. Lou Sylvestri

    Andrew,

    Did you say that California is one of those states where drivers don’t carry guns? Or did I misread that?

    July 30th, 2012 10:13 am

  41. noname

    all you amateur CHP self-proclaimed road vigilantes
    READ THIS!!

    MOVE OVER!! IT’S THE LAW!!

    THEY HAVE SIGNS EVERY 2 MILES TO REMIND YOU OF THIS!!

    V C Section 21654 Slow Moving Vehicles
    Slow-Moving Vehicles
    21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

    (b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation of subdivision (a) of this section.

    (c) The Department of Transportation, with respect to state highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a left turn.

    Amended Ch. 545, Stats. 1974. Effective January 1, 1975.

    July 30th, 2012 10:56 am

  42. Road.Warrior

    For those readers citing the vehicle code for slow moving cars, one thing you’re forgetting is that the law does not allow you to go faster than the speed limit. Now, that said, I would move over to allow faster traffic even I was going the speed limit. And if was passed by a reckless speeder, I’d get the license plate number, description of car and ask my passenger to call the CHP to report the driver.

    July 30th, 2012 11:54 am

  43. noname

    regardless, the law clearly says “nothwithstanding the speed limit” and there are signs everywhere saying SLOWER TRAFFIC MOVE RIGHT! I’m sick of CA drivers having no lane discipline and I really can’t stand the self-appointed Amateur Speed Patrol who camp out in the passing lane trying to “help”. sure there’s reasonable and there’s reckless speeding, if you notice the police don’t pull people over doing 9-10+ over the limit, trust me I can cruise along at 75mph all day right next to a cop car and never get a ticket… and NObody should ever tail-gate or pressure people to move over in a dangerous manner, but the law clearly says regardless of the speed limit you MUST MOVE RIGHT if possible.

    July 30th, 2012 2:17 pm

  44. Randy

    people who intentionally and recklessly slow down in an attempt to perform their own traffic flow control are creating multiple hazards and should be cited for their reckless disregard to their surroundings. and a warning performing said manuvers on teh high way could open you up to liability if something else were to occur since youa re conciously disregarding safe vehicle operation and engaging in road rage. in washington state they enforce the stay right law and slow vehicle laws and it makes a difference with traffic flow.

    Also unless your speedometer is caliberated professionally odds are its off. factory speedo’s can be off by up to 4-7 mph from the factory and if you’ve put new tires on recently odds they arent the exact oem equiptment so the rotations have changed. so when you think you are doing 65mph in the left lane and wondering why you are being passed consider that you dont really know for sure how fast you really are going

    July 30th, 2012 7:03 pm

  45. Lee Neutron

    Driving would be easier if everyone simply agreed to be courteous. Purposefully getting in other people’s way, finger flipping or tailgating are examples of rude and dangerous behavior. Heeding the flow of traffic, using turn signals and respecting the fact that various drivers have different abilities would make the roads safer for us all.

    August 1st, 2012 12:43 pm

  46. Busy Bee

    @Makai:
    You have too much time on your hands. Many of us have a life and people like you are the reason for the traffic!

    August 7th, 2012 9:03 pm

  47. R K Rust

    Section 21650, effective January1, 2010, says all vehicles shall use the right half of the roadway unless overtaking another vehicle moving in the same direction. When you are safely past the other car, you MUST move back to the right lane(s). Another section says that cars in the left lane, when approached by an over-taking car, must move right, when safe to do so, and that the overtaking driver may use the horn, or a brief flash of the lights, to alert the driver in front. Many of you, especially Makai, need refresher courses in driving, among other things.

    August 9th, 2012 9:32 am

  48. Missy

    I commute every day from Rohnert Park to San Rafael and I have seen everything from postal truck drivers going postal to being deliberately run off the road.

    Accidents happen really fast…I usually go the speed limit or about 5 mph over when it’s safe. And I try to give other drivers a wide berth.

    Even going over the speed limit in the CENTER lane when there’s no one in the right or left lane doesn’t guarantee that someone else won’t come up from behind, doing about 85, flashing their lights and honking.

    Dude, I’m already speeding! Go around!

    But no. Sadly, after firing off defensive rear photon torpedoes, I move over, allowing Sir Speedy to take full advantage of the middle lane…only to see him get off less than a half mile ahead, at the next exit.

    One can only wonder about where the fire was, or how late he was to his anger management class…

    Or…he really needed to get to that group hug I’ve heard so much about…

    August 13th, 2012 8:58 pm

  49. Nico

    Coming from San Jose, Southbay area. I can understand your situation and relate to your driving mood or habits.

    I myself too find that people in the Northbay drives way too fast and I honestly think Northbay drivers are the fastest drivers in the Bay area, no doubt about that.

    I used to live in the Southbay, Mountain view to be exact and people there are way too chill than people up here in the northbay, I think it is the athmosphere, people in the Northbay are always aggressive and they dont even notice it. But in the south, its a bit more lax and you find drivers that is not as excessive when going over the speed limit rather than the Northbay.

    It is very frustrating for someone from the Southbay having to deal with all the terrible drivers up in the North. Sometimes I wish they put like a LOT of cops all over the northbay and pull all the M———— over and give them all a ticket, no matter what their age or sex is. They all need to learn how to drive up here in the Northbay. Stupid people here dont know any better. I hate them too.

    September 24th, 2012 11:15 am

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